The Science or Fiction Podcast
The Science or Fiction Podcast
How can we understand mental health and mental illness?
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How can we understand mental health and mental illness?

with Afraa Din (youth advisor, King's College London) and Dr Eleanor Chatburn (researcher and clinical psychologist, Child Mind Institute)

In this special episode, Dr. Kathryn Bates and Afraa Din, our young person advisor, ask clinical psychologist and researcher, Dr. Eleanor Chatburn, what is mental health vs. mental illness?

There is so much information about mental health from news articles to infographics on Instagram to people with lived experience sharing their stories on Tiktok.

How do we make sense of it all? How do we know how to look after our own mental health and to know when we need support? We asked Dr. Chatburn these important questions.

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If you are affected by any of the issues discussed in the episode, you can access free support via the following links:

The Mix helplines: https://www.themix.org.uk/get-support

Mind Charity contacts: https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/for-children-and-young-people/useful-contacts/

Samaritans contact information: https://www.samaritans.org/how-we-can-help/contact-samaritan/


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